CHAPTER 10 – Tommy Thayer pre-KISS

 

10.01. Rules Were Made To Be Broken

10.02. Give ‘Em The Old 1, 2, 3

The first two Black ‘N Blue demos to be recorded which had their copyright registered in February 1982. Both of these demos were recorded while the band were still based in Portland, Oregon. 10.01 is listed on the copyright application with the title “Rules (Were Made To Be Broken).”

 

10.03. Chains Around Heaven

In 1984 Black ‘N Blue were one of several notable bands to appear on the first Metal Blade “Metal Massacre” compilations. When released on June 16, 1982 “Metal Massacre” became the first release by Brian Slagel’s Metal Blade records. According to Brian, “I kinda got the idea that since no one was really paying any attention to what was going on in L.A. at the time, it would be fun to do a compilation album - kinda in the spirit of the NWOBHM. I just came up with the name and I went to all of the bands and asked whether they’d want to be on a record if I did one. They all said sure” (MetalBlade.com). The initial pressing of 5,000 copies would quickly sell out.

 

Other notable artists on that debut release included Metallica, Ratt, and Steeler. In terms of music history Metallica’s recording of “Hit The Lights,” which featured James Hetfield, Lars Ulrich, and Lloyd Grant, would be the stand out track on the album. The second printing of the album would include a new version of “Hit The Lights” that included Dave Mustaine and Ron McGovney in the band’s lineup in place of Grant. That band would be one of the very few who included material on the numerous “Metal Massacre” compilations to actually make it in the industry. Ratt included “Tell The World,” and would be one of the first bands on the original release to find success. Ron Keel’s pre-Keel band Steeler included “Cold Day In Hell” on the album. Ron would later have two of his own band’s albums produced by Gene Simmons, though Keel would meet with no better success than Black ‘N Blue did. Steeler didn’t last, but Keel nearly had a chance of making it in the mid-1980s. Steeler’s role in 1980s metal is more as a stepping stone for two of its members, Ron and guitarist Yngwie J. Malmsteen (who was not yet a member of the band at the time) who would move on to Alcatrazz (with ex-members of Vinnie Vincent’s pre-KISS band Warrior) and solo success.

 

Black ‘N Blue’s contribution to the album would be a demo recording of “Chains Around Heaven” which had written by Tommy Thayer and Jamie St. James. It was only included on the 1984 second printing of the album replacing Steeler’s “Cold Day In Hell.”

 

10.04. Violent Kid

10.05. I’m The King

Second batch of Black ‘N Blue demos that had their copyright registered in April 1982.

 

10.06. The Strong Will Rock

10.07. Squeeze Me

Final demos recorded by Black ‘N Blue in Portland.

 

10.08. Violent Kid

Demo recording done at Larabee Studios, Los Angeles. While this song would never be officially released it would become a set favorite during the band’s shows. Part of the reason that it never ended up on an album, according to Jaime, was, “because Geffen were never keen on the song” (reyno-roxx).

 

10.09. Sign In Blood

10.10. Wicked Bitch

Recorded with Don Dokken and Michael Wagener in Los Angeles, California for the first Black ‘N Blue demo proper.

 

10.11. School Of Hard Knocks

10.12. Cold Heart

4-track demos recorded in Los Angeles, California in 1983.

 

10.13. Hold On To 18

10.14. Lifeline

Demos recorded in Los Angeles during 1983 prior to the band leaving for Germany to record their debut album with Dieter Dierks.

 

“Black ‘N Blue” Album Notes:

Produced by Dieter Dierks. Recorded and mixed at Dierks Studios, Stommeln, Germany. Engineered by Gerd Rautenbach. Reached #129 on the album charts.

 

10.15. The School Will Rock

10.16. School Of Hard Knocks

10.17. Autoblast

10.18. Hold On To 18

This song would be Black ‘N Blue’s debut single. A video would be made for promotional purposes.

 

10.19. Wicked Bitch

10.20. Action

10.21. Show Me The Night

10.22. One For The Money

Tracks 10.19, 10.21 and 10.22 were new tracks written in late 1983 prior to the band going to Germany to record the album.

 

10.23. I’m The King

10.24. Chains Around Heaven

 

“Without Love” Album Notes:

Recorded at Little River Studios in Vancouver, British Columbia. Produced by Bruce Fairbairn; Engineered by Bob Rock. One tentative title for Black ‘N Blue’s sophomore effort was “Swing Town” though the band eventually settled on “Without Love.” Additional musicians on the album included: Adam Bomb (Guitar), Jim Vallance (Drums), Doug Johnson, Dave Pickell, and Steve Porcaro on keyboards, and James Hibbard (Trumpet). The album would reach #116 on the charts.

 

10.25. RockinOn Heaven’s Door

10.26. Without Love

Written in March 1985 by Jamie St. James, Tommy Thayer, and Jim Vallance, this song would also be a single from the album.

 

10.27. Stop The Lighting

10.28. Nature Of The Beach

10.29. Miss Mystery

Written in March 1985 by Jamie St. James, Tommy Thayer, and Jim Vallance, this song would be released as a single. Additionally, a promotional video would be made for the song. When John Kalodner recruited Bruce Fairbairn to produce the album Bruce would bring in his friend Jim Vallance to help the band expand the song-writing.

 

10.30. Swing Time

Originally the title of the album, this song would be issued as a single (Geffen 2538) backed with “RockinOn Heaven’s Door.”

 

10.31. Bombastic Plastic

10.32. We Got The Fire

10.33. Strange Things

10.34. Two Wrongs (Don’t Make It Love)

 

10.35. Same Old Song And Dance

Track 10.35 was a CD only bonus track, a cover of the Aerosmith classic.

 

10.36. Lip Lock

10.37. Rock And Roll Animals

10.38. Run, Run

10.39. Sign In Blood

10.40. Summer Heat

Tracks 10.36-10.40 are a group of demos that had their copyright registered in August 1985.

 

10.41. Lovin’ Every Minute Of It (Album)

Both Tommy Thayer and Jamie St. James sing backing vocals on this Loverboy album, though the tracks are not specified.

 

10.42. Jimmy Barnes (Album)

Tommy would appear on Jimmy Barnes self-titled album (also titled “Working Class Man” in some markets), playing guitar, in 1985, among a plethora of other guest musicians. Jimmy was something of a member of the Bryan Adams club in terms of style, but had been very successful in his native Australia. There a so many guitarists on this album it’s not clear which track(s) Tommy plays on.

 

10.43. Little Miss Dangerous (Album)

Both Tommy Thayer and Jamie St. James sing backing vocals on this Ted Nugent album, though the tracks are not specified. Also providing backing vocals is Sandy Slavin, who’d later be a member of Ace Frehley’s solo band. Ted would later write some material with Black ‘N Blue, though it would never be released.

 

“Nasty, Nasty” Album Notes:

Produced by Gene Simmons and Jonathan Cain*; Engineered by Mickey Davis; Mixed by Val Garay. Reached #110 on the Billboard album charts.

 

10.44. Nasty Nasty

10.45. I Want It All (I Want It Now)

This song was also issued promotionally as a 3:31 edit (Geffen PRO-A-2534).

 

10.46. Does She Or Doesn’t She

10.47. Kiss Of Death

10.48. Twelve O’clock High

10.49. Do What You Wanna Do

10.50. I’ll Be There For You*

The sole track on the album written and produced by Jonathan Cain of Journey. This track would give Black ‘N Blue their first and only top-40 hit as the record label pushed the band for radio friendly material.

 

10.51. Rules

10.52. Best In The West

This Black ‘N Blue song is more notable for the guest appearance of former KISS drummer Peter Criss on vocals. For futher details, please refer to the Peter Criss post-KISS section.

 

10.53. License To Kill

10.54. Chain Gang Woman

Both 10.53 and 10.54 were produced by Max Norman. This final full-length Malice album, “License To Kill,” was released in 1987. Jamie St. James, Jeff Warner, and Tommy Thayer all sing backing vocals on two tracks on the album, along with Dave Mustaine and Dave Ellefson. A further connection with Malice, would be the formation of the band Monster by Black ‘N Blue drummer Pete Holmes and members of Malice following the demise of their respective bands - not odd since they’d played in the band Kharma prior to the establishment of those respective bands.

 

“In Heat” Album Notes:

Produced by Gene Simmons; Associate producer: Pat Regan. Recorded and mixed by Dave Wittman. The final “Black ‘N Blue” album, “In Heat” only managed to reach #133 on the Billboard album charts when released in 1988.

 

10.55. Rock On

Written by Tommy Thayer, Jamie St. James and Gene Simmons.

 

10.56. Sight For Sore Eyes

Written by Pat Regan, Jamie St. James, Tommy Thayer, and Gene Simmons.

 

10.57. Heat It Up! Burn It Out!

Written by Jamie St. James, Tommy Thayer, and Jeff Warner.

 

10.58. Suspicious

Written by Jamie St. James, Tommy Thayer, and Pat Regan.

 

10.59. The Snake

Written by Jamie St. James and Tommy Thayer.

 

10.60. Live It Up

Written by Jeff Warner, Jamie St. James and Gene Simmons.

 

10.61. Gimme Your Love

Written by Jamie St. James, Tommy Thayer, and Adam Mitchell. Might have been originally called “7 Year Bitch?,” a song mentioned in Kerrang #156.

 

10.62. Get Wise To The Rise

10.63. Great Guns Of Fire

Both written by Jamie St. James and Tommy Thayer.

 

10.64. Stranger

Written by Jamie St. James and Gene Simmons.

 

10.65. Survival

Co-written with legendary rocker Ted Nugent in 1988, this track would not be used on the album.

 

10.66. It’s My Life

Producer Gene Simmons would get Black ‘N Blue to record the unused KISS anthem, though it would not be used on the final Black ‘N Blue studio album since the band were apparently unhappy with how the recording turned out.

 

10.67 Run For The Border

Co-written with Marc Ferrari this song would take six years to appear on a Marc Ferrari release. However, the song was recorded by the Japanese band Still Alive for their “No Reason To Pray” album (1992).

 

“Doro” Album Notes:

Produced by Gene Simmons; Associate producers: Tommy Thayer and Pat Regan; Engineered and mixed by Pat Regan. In 1990 Gene Simmons recruited Tommy to associate produce (with Pat Regan) former Warlock vocalist Doro’s self-titled album and follow-up to her solo debut “Force Majeur.” Tommy would provide the majority of the lead guitar duties on the album with Lanny Cordola playing on one track, but he would also play rhythm and acoustic guitars throughout the album. While the album would include a couple of Simmons’ tracks though he would also have Doro cover Black ‘N Blue’s “Rock On.” Recorded at Fortress Recorders in Hollywood, the album would be released in May 1990. Even with a video for “Unholy Love” in heavy rotation the album wouldn’t break in America. Tommy’s involvement would end with the recording sessions. See also Gene Simmons extra-KISS section.

 

10.68. Unholy Love

10.69. I Had Too Much To Dream

10.70. Rock On

A cover of the Black ‘N Blue song

 

10.71. Only You

10.72. I’ll Be Holding On

10.73. Something Wicked This Way Comes

10.74. Rare Diamond

10.75. Broken

10.76. Alive

10.77. Mirage

 

Harlow” Album Notes:

Produced by Harlow. The band featured Teresa Straley (vocals), Tommy Thayer (guitar), Todd Jensen (bass), Steven Klong (drums), and Pat Regan (keyboards). Corey Levitan summed up the band and its material in his Circus magazine review: “A decent debut from this L.A. outfit, featuring former Black N’ Blue guitarist Tommy Thayer, but it’s Teresa Straley’s fiery vocals that engulf the mix. A cross between Lita Ford and Pat Benatar, she’s all over subjects hard rock prefers to ignore.... The gritty self-production may owe to Harlow’s recording environment; a third of this album was tracked in the kitchen and dining room of a small Hollywood apartment” (Circus, 6/90).

 

10.78. Chain Reaction

10.79. Silence

10.80. Don’t Say We’re Over

10.81. Empty

10.82. When You Love Someone

10.83. Cry Murder

10.84. No Escape

10.85. Beyond Control

10.86. Pictures

10.87. Edge Of Love

 

10.88. Four On The Floor

A song co-written by Tommy and Marc Ferrari that would be recorded by Marc’s then band Cold Sweat for their album “Break Out.”

 

10.89. Unknown Tracks

During 1991 Phil Soussan, Tommy Thayer, and vocalist Jeff Scott Soto would hook up to record some demos. Details concerning this project are currently unknown.

 

“Shake The Faith” Album Notes:

Produced by Cal Curtis and released on Alfa Brunette Records (Japan) in 1994. The album would be titled “America The Violent.”

 

10.90. Anti-Heroes

10.91. Suffocated

10.92. So What

10.93. The Pope’s On Dope

10.94. Crazy Jane

10.95. My Twisted View (MTV)

10.96. Dysfunctional

10.97. Destroyer

10.98. Public Trust

10.99. Weight Of The World

10.100. Medicine Man

 

10.101. Flying Blind

10.102. Runaway Train

10.103. Long On Love

Three tracks co-written with Marc Ferrari and released on Marc’s “Medicine Wheel” project in 1994.

 

10.104. All Hell’s Broke Loose

Tommy simply contributes guitar on this track that was released on Marc Ferrari’s “Marc Ferrari & Friends – Guest List” project in 1995.

 

10.105. Run For The Border

Six years after being written by Marc and Tommy this song would finally be released in 1995 on the “Marc Ferrari & Friends – Guest List” album.

 

10.106. Blind Faith

Tommy plays guitar and bass on this track which he co-wrote with Marc. Ron Keel had previously recorded and released the track with his female backing-band “Fair Game” for the “Bad Channels” OST in 1991. This would be the final of the three older Thayer collaborations included on “Guest List.”

 

“Mayday” album notes:

Produced by Pat Regan. Recorded in California in 1995 by the Swiss band Gunshy. Both Tommy and Jamie St. James sing backing vocals on this album which whose band was comprised of John Luke (Lead Vocals), Patrick Reilly (Keyboards), Steve De Biasi (Guitars), Mark Levin (Bass), and Max Zack (Drums).

 

10.107. N862B

10.108. Ticket 2 Heaven

10.109. You Take My Heart

10.110. Last Chance

10.111. Fool

10.112. Sometimes

10.113. Superstition

10.114. Love Is A Game

10.115. Sherry’s On Fire

10.116. Music Man

10.117. Friends Or Lovers

 

10.118. Soul

Produced by Sovory. This track would be co-produced by Mars Lasar. Recorded at Saturn Sound, Burbank, CA. Sovory was a vocalist in a similar vein to Seal. Tommy played guitar on this one track on Sovory’s self-titled album. Other musicians on the track include Eric Jackson (Rhythm Guitar), Mars Lasar (Bass, Keyboards, and Drum Programming), and Vincent Wilburn (Drums). According to Mars, “he’s an artist who knows what he wants and hears it before it’s done. A true artist. I co-produced and co-wrote ‘Soul’ (used for the sitcom ‘Baywatch’ and Disney film, ‘The 6th Man’)” (marslaser.com).

 

10.119. Faraway Eyes

Written by Warrant’s Eric Turner and Tommy, this song was included on the independent “Hollywood Underground” album released in 1996 on Ear Candy Records. Eric organized the project that included numerous guests from many 1980s hair bands including Jeff Scott Soto, Marc Ferrari, and Jani Lane. The album would be reissued in 1997 on Perris Records. Eric also released a demo version of the recording on “Demos For Diehards” in 1998. Tommy also receives a credit on that album for guitar work on the track.

 

“One Live Night” Album Notes:

Produced by Patrick Regan and Tommy Thayer. Recorded at Key Largo, Portland, Oregon on October 31, 1997, this live album would be the result of a “one-off” reunion of Black ‘N Blue.

 

10.120. Rockin’ On Heavens Door

10.121. Autoblast

10.122. Hold On To 18

10.123. Does She Or Doesn’t She

10.124. Heat It Up! Burn It Out!

10.125. Without Love

10.126. Miss Mystery

10.127. Violent Kid

10.128. I’ll Be There For You

10.129. Wicked Bitch

10.130. School Of Hard Knocks

10.131. I’m The King

 

“Live In Detroit” Album Notes:

Released on Zoom records in 2001 “Black ‘N Blue: Live In Detroit, 1984” would be criticized by many reviewers as sounding worse than many of the band’s unofficial bootleg concert recordings.

 

10.132. Chains Around Heaven

10.133. Action

10.134. Autoblast

10.135. The Strong Will Rock

10.136. Hold On To 18

10.137. Wicked Bitch

10.138. School Of Hard Knocks

10.139. I’m The King

10.140. One For The Mone

 

“The Demos Remastered Anthology 1” Album Notes:

Tracks 10.141–10.152 form a collection of Black ‘N Blue demos initially released by Jamie St. James on Krazy Planet Records. Zoom Club Records would release the collection in 2001 with different cover art.

 

10.141. Chains Around Heaven (1981)

10.142. I’m The King (1981)

10.143. Strong Will Rock (1982)

10.144. Squeeze Me (1982)

10.145. Violent Kid (1982)

10.146. Sign In Blood (1983)

10.147. Wicked Bitch (1983)

10.148. School Of Hard Knocks (1983)

10.149. Cold Heart (1983)

10.150. Hold On To 18 (1983)

10.151. Lifeline (1983)

10.152. Autoblast (Live, 1984)

 

10.153. Good And Evil (1984)

Song recorded for the first Black ‘N Blue album, but not used.

 

10.154. Promise The Moon (1986)

Song recorded for “Nasty Nasty,” but not used.